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What is peace? is a Cultural_Fusion inspired SoulFood:Meal that is cooked and shared in the SoulFood tradition.







A tangent that turned into a Project:stek-jes


What is peace?



Yvette_Dubel writes:

It is my hope for the world. My question has led me to see that peace is only possible in the world when we have it within ourselves. In my journey this started with making peace with my past because not doing so is what seems to create conflict or Attention:Resistance and this is the clearly marked path to War. An observation i want to communicate in "what-is-peace?" is the process, that can get uncomfortable and sticky - if not just downright gut wrenching, on the path to peace. The reward is found in moving through the awkwardness, not by denying it, but honoring its message...a request for Space and Attention.





This Project is dedicated to the loving memory of my Grandma Lottie Tecora, my friend Noni, my father, Herbert...and all the loved ones left behind, tormented by the reverberating effects--the truth of war-- that leave them praying daily for peace.


Since the start of this dedication was a bit somber-tearful- I decided to add some expression of appreciation for the people who are still alive and have helped me grow into a Love:Expert. It would be the people who showed me what Unconditional Love felt like to receive. How could you not want to share that?

I thank from the depths of all that I know to be me, My Mother, My Children, My Auntie, My Husband, my Jean-Pierre, and ALL of my animal companions.


Projection Manifesting:

The Ingredients Beyond Value, Journey to SoulFood, Do tears add sweetness?, SoulFood Recipes, SoulFood in Art, Cultural Fusion cuisine takes a historical look at SoulFood, Stop Fussin' You have All You Need, Digging for the Roots of SoulFood,






So this Project will be one that explores the path(s) to peace with ourselves and in our Source:Relationships to each other, history, truth, justice, the present, the planet, Comfusion: all the plants and trees waiting to be discoverd as we gather ingredients for the SoulFood:Dishes for this SoulFood:Banquet called what-is-peace?. When this is normalized, a world at war ceases to be an option.


In my experience, the path to peace starts with an end to abuse and victimization and because i can only control me that is where this quest for peace begins. It may not be an easy task, but just as i was about to embark i was reminded that i am not alone...and this Project will remind others that they are not alone. i also hope that it helps others in their exploration and understanding of what peace is so that some day no one will be afraid to commit to--invest in-- Peace.


Synchronistic Inspiration

Ron sent me the song \"From a Distance\" at the right time and it has provided sustained inspiration that reaches in and connects me immediately with why i had to do this Project. I can't mention this song and not include a link to Julie Gold's Grammy acceptance because it is a moment that still moves me to tears for too many reasons.


Update: 10-28-08

I have thought several times to add this, but I do it this time.

I felt she expresses what it is to see our inner conflict - I pray/work for peace and I love the soliders.

I have a funny little cartoon we came up with from the time when this first came to me. That must have been a year or more ago. I will add for this later.


What can I do?

 I can apply my Ingredients (Art, Ideas, Time, Attention, Love/Passion, Breath (life force), JOY, etc)  to developing the recipe(s) and prototypes of the ULTIMATE ANSWER.

What I have learned is that my speciality is integrating the needs and resources of all keystake holders. Not an easy task when approaching and idea like how to express the questions in a way that makes infinite space for others based on Radical Inclusion.

In addion, I found the reward is Source:Passion-

Passion is the desire to find out about an aspect of yourself that you can fall in love with.

What is your passion?


Understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beholder this approach to Passion is based on WebAntiphon:Radical_Inclusion and uniting the heart and mind to work together.



I touched on it ever so slightly in the Oci Novosti essay I did on romantic ideals/sexuality and their political expression. I have a series on this brewing in my head for about five years now, so may the time is coming where I will be ready to express that one. That is not today.


Oh, and in case you don't know the words, here's a link to the lyrics at Nanci Griffith's site, she recorded the song before Bette Middler. I "discovered" Nancy back in the late '80's when I worked in little music/video store. It was/is one of the last of the independently owned music stores in that town.


Update and Note to self:


Connection to unnpublished article on relationship as energy transcaction--->Ron's PoD-->ID change space<--? I feel this is an art series that emerges as a stek jes to this project<---Elvis Costello essay<--Right to think as sexual liberation<-- essays I have not written about the rewards of creative passion, SoulFood/CF as CRM Strategy, and Attention:Alone relationship to Personal Fabrication as an Industry.





The first Project exploring this question begins with a dialogue about the lessons on the path to peace from friendship as a Source:Collaboration between Humanity:Yvette_Dubel and Humanity:Irena_Gapkovska. That dialogue is at the end of this page and will be integrated into a digital or internet Art:Work as part of a multimedia installation.


This was followed by a similar SoulFood:Dish inspired by my Aunt Yvette and the culmination of many years of influence and dialogues... in as much as i feel inspired by my auntie, i also see the many ways that my Grandma Lottie, my Mom, Yvette_Dubel:Cousin_Rakia|my Cousin Rakia], my soul sista Connie Hilliard whose work illuminated the role of oral tradition and expressiveness in understanding culture and history; all of these amazing women prove to me that heroes surround us and only those with hearts to see will spot them.


The Storyteller:Keepers of Wisdom

This image is from a limited edition print series called "The Storyteller" where i first began exploring the treasures of the oral tradition bequeathed by my Grandma Lottie and Aunt Yvette.




In more recent history i discovered soul sistas that have brought blessings and lessons, Irena Gapkovska Kerry Santo and Jenny Hsueh who never cease to amaze me with their insights, experience, kindness and tenacity. i haven't found the word for what Ron is just yet, colleague? Soul man? Soul brother? or Soul Source:Collaborator? friend? we have learned a great deal through this work.

Jan. 2, 2009 update - Ron is a "Brother-Friend"


 Pras ' work has been an interesting mirror of many of the ideas of interest to me. I have learned alot from how it shines through the lens of his expression.








See TakingITGlobal PeaceOneDay Blog post-Sep 24th, 2006 - 14:29:28 | Irena




The Projects in this Cultural_Fusion Art:Series will be implemented and developed with a Cultural_Fusion:Group core team: Organization:WebAntiphon Corporation will work with Organization:NGO_Art_Studio, Organization:Maak_Je_Geen_Zorgen, Organization:iFOSSF, and Organization:MacEachern_Associates. Humanity:Pras_Anandhas agreed to connect his work with Social Computer and Practical Utopia, as well as some other projects and ideas which will be developed and explored collaboratively.

This team is also known as the Cultural_Fusion:Group and Fusion_Enlightenment_Group


I'd like to explore what these projects can offer to benefit Organization:NGO_Art_Studio and Amnesty International, the nonprofit organizations for which our activities will be fundraisers, and eventually other grassroots historical and arts initiatives including the Fairfield County Historical Preservation Initiative launched by "my Auntie", and The Millennium Campaign.


As some know Irena is a friend and fellow artists and i believe very much in her Studio's programs. Amnesty played a critical role in the awakening of my social conscious and because my family of origin and i have been raised primarily in South & North Carolina it is my "mixed bag" connection to my nation and the southeast region--- that i seek to make peace with in my own heart because attaining peace must always start with the one seeking it. See my powefulintentions_page to learn more about the role Amnesty International played in this story. Suffice it say my passion for championing human rights was ignited in powerful way, as was my desire to live a life that stands as a work of activist Performance rooted in love and compassion. It is for this reason that my entire Cultural_Fusion Art:Series will seek to advance and support The Millennium Campaign goals.


Human Rights Network

U.S. Human Rights Network

Today, the 10th of December, people around the world are celebrating International Human Rights Day.

States around the world are using this day to reaffirm their commitment to principles of universal human rights.


But here, in the US, most people don't know about this important anniversary. Although the United States played a major role in the writing and adopting of the UDHR 55 years ago, the US government does not promote Human Rights Day.

View Source


Do i mean YOU?


As you read the following, if you or someone you know is interested in participating as an Art:Artist or Project:Sponsor, contact me and we'll see what develops.


The first Project:Sponsor for this project is Organization:iFOSSF (International Free and Open Source Software Foundation) as the technical partner for carrying out the R&D for the media network required for Cultural_Fusion.


The Project Concept:



My rationale as an artist is that so many individuals and companies are immortalized because of the bad they do as artist use their names and logos in protest art, or writers and media give them free press denied so many worthy causes...this is in some respects, a protest to that kind of protest art and cultivate new avenues not dependent on mainstream media to diseminate or digest information. The goal here is to Immortalize and Celebrate those who support Peace instead of those that profit from war. This includes the artist that collaborate and the Organizations/Businesses that Project:Sponsor.


Also the mission is to ensure that as many as possible see the Art:Work without depending solely on the traditional media. We primarily utilize the Internet and word of mouth, to involve as many as possible in this as Performance:Art Source:Collaboration with others who want to show support for peace by helping to spread the word. This epitomizes my concept of "radical inclusion as a WebAntiphon:Clear_CRM_strategy".


If you support Peace, pass it on!



Project Guidelines:

i will only establish the starting point, the collaborating Art:Artist will take the next steps within their realm of expertise to help develop a new fusion Art:Work.


In regard to censorship in art i'd like to direct you to Patti Smith's interview with Freemuse on this subject as she echoes my thoughts/feelings on the issue. Her life as an artist, feminist, global citizen, wife, and mother are inspirational for me as they provide a bit more insight about the path(s) to peace on both the personal and interpersonal levels.


Event One in Macedonia 2006




This 1st event will officially introduce the Cultual_Fusion Source:Collaboration series in support of the Millenium Development Goals


Visit the Event:Art_Peace_Day_One page to see the Press Release and invitation.



Another Little Peace 2007-2008

The launch of this event has been altered due to delays with Hotel Infinity development.


The idea is to advance radical inclusion by making it easier for more people to participate in creating culture of peace now..not as some distant future to be left in the hands of politicians.


This means starting where we are at this moment. Despite the conflicts around us, peace always starts with the self...YOU. What can you do to move us forward...closer to peace? Consider how you can contribute to Art Peace, Day One...with more days of peace to follow.


The question i'd like to invite people to consider is this:


      • Who can you forgive?



Forgiveness is to give up hope for a better past.


On September 21, 2007 I am asking you to use Twitter, Widgetbox, Clearspring , Jajah, Meebo, or Jaxtr to engage increasing numbers of people to forgive at least one person.


cmrstrategy event guide2.pdf



Event Two:Oral Tradition Integration


Event Two is the documentary inspired video created from the raw content being developed. This video series will be used in Installations and backdrop for Performance pieces.


Update July 2007:

During the weeks of July 16th-27th 2007 we are volunteering at the history museum to assist to research and develop a contextual understanding for the history of Fairfield County. We are working on the oral history project being developed by my Aunt Yvette, which will seek to accurately include the history of the community that includes a majority of African descent. An inclusive project of this nature in this place feels noteworthy. So far (6/22/07) we've (my children and i) worked along side my Aunt Yvette, history museum intern Markita Minger, and a talented artist, Michaela Brown, to install video/audio editing software, start to digitize the audio and image collections for the project, transferred the video to DVD, designed the brochure for the upcoming Catawba Native American exhibit, and assisted with some interviews. Collecting oral histories is no easy tasks as most of the people we've asked have declined. i can only wonder why. See blog post: What is Freedom?


However, this represents a firm start towards the online repository envisioned for this project. I envision it as an artistic collaboration to create a digital resource for the global community to study, analyze, contribute to and be enriched by.


July 27

I have some mixed media work in development that has been inspired by this recent trip. It will be included in the exhibition that accompanies the performance piece below. It is the basis of the Installation that will provide the context for the Performance below that includes the visual art (paintings and sculptures), Installation(s) and ICT as part of the artwork.


Event Three: Performance Peace- Our Story



Creation and Performance of a piece inspired by my family's history in South Carolina and the broader historical community context.


This is an example representing how the history of people from different cultural legacies are interconnected and sometimes clash. (click the Event:Three link above to view more about this project)


Demonstrating why historical preservation that includes multiple perspectives and experiences is vital to understanding the path followed to reach the present...and consideration of how it can honestly and progressively inform the future.


This piece will introduce the ICT system to create an online cultural repository within the envisioned 3D environment (as well as a more static form-based on the Phase1 site, for those with connection or hardware challenges). The result is intended to create a kind of online cultural museum and research center that is both a public service and a collaborative work of art.


Idea for exploration in the development of this project is the difference between heritage and culture.


Ending Slavery Today

The artist doing this oral traditions Performance piece will be developed with and performed by Lorraine Stone of M'zume to create another Event in the States that will be part of advancing the ICT project. This original piece will start with history and move into the present to educate and illuminate the Abolition movement today. (Yes Anti-Slavery movements that end this practice are still needed today!)


American  Anti-Slavery Group

Free The Slaves


Anti-Slavery Society




ICTech Inclusion


There is an IT component of this Project and one goal is to create an online repository as a unique Portfolio type function for nonprofit or community organizations that seek membership at Comfusion or Hotel_Infinity. This Historical Initiative will be the one for which these features and technologies are developed but once completed they'll be available for all at no cost for basic features. Organization:WebAntiphon Corporation is working with partners Organization:iFOSSF, and collaborating artists to manage the technical planning, development, implementation, technical support and maintenance to ensure free basice services for nonprofits and community groups.


The basic features will be designed to give the global community easy acess to historical and cultural information that would otherwise be lost. The emphasis is on inclusion of the previously excluded or under represented cultures in local and regional museums around the globe.


For example--

the Storyteller painting was inspired by summer evenings at my Grandma Lottie's house on the front porch where she'd read various books to us. My favorite was The Negro Caravan which was full of old stories. My Grandma lived on Cemetery Street where there was an old graveyard hidden in the woods where some of our family are buried. Years later when my Auntie began collecting information on who was buried down there, because many of our ancestors were among them, she discovered that someone at the county office had burned the records. Apparently not seeing the value of retaining such information for one of the oldest, if not the oldest, "colored cemetery" in the county. That is now a wealth of historical information that predated the Civil War, lost...to create a dead end for those seeking to find and connect with their family history. This worsens the situation created by slavery that makes it extremely difficult to trace one's family lineage.



My goal is to create a repository that provides an alternative to local preservation institutions that continue to be tainted by the history of discrimination. This repository would be independent and ownership shared by the global community. Best of all it ensures that the valuable information my Auntie (and the others like her) have collected is preserved and easily shared with those seeking such to learn about local histories, including but not limited to oral histories.


There are a very limited number of resources for that region and history must not be revised by excluding important information that played vital role in shaping the community.

Update: 6/22/07

While visiting the Brattonsville Plantation (York County, S.C.) we learned some interesting facts, that though known by some locals and historians, was not included in written history accounts. One example of how valuable oral histories are in preserving honest histories of the region.


During the tour as we walked out of the wood shop the slaves used my Aunt Yvette shared with us a story handed down by my Grandma Lottie who was told by Caleb Craig, a former neighbor born into slavery who was also the son of the plantation owner. He was a slave in Fairfield County, S.C. and although he is included in the collected slave narratives, the story about to be shared was not included.


Aunt Yvette shared this after i had inquired about what this trough structure outside the door would have been used for. Although she couldn's say for that specific one (later found out from "Kitty" that it was used for soaking wood) she went on to explain the role of similar troughs in feeding slaves. Mr. Craig was a "house slave" and one of his jobs was to feed his mother and siblings (along with other slaves) by dumping scraps in the same way that pigs are "slopped". The horror of this brought tears to my eyes.


When i asked our tour guide "Kitty" she stumbled backwards as tears came to her eyes and she continued to explain how such containers had been found outside of kitchen windows. Scraps dumped, the bell rang to summon slaves from the fields and they were fed like animals. We all had a long pause as this reality sank in.


What did being treated this way do to a person's soul? And what effect did it have on the perpetrators and beneficiaries of such demeaning cruelty? Perhaps the answers explain the determination of some to romanticize this period today by focusing on the superficial aspects of the antebellum south and the history of institutionalized racism and discrimination.


We walked along to another building and "Kitty" told us of a descendent of a slave (a woman visiting from California) that had lived at the Brattonsville place who had taken the tour during or following a reunion. She had inquired about the whether the "dungeon" was still there. She went on to tell "Kitty" about how in her family stories about this place used to punish slaves, had been handed down in her family. "Kitty" gestured toward the bars of a basement structure. We peered down inside, my children snapping pictures, as she went on to explain how she had asked a local historian about the "dungeon". He confirmed that such a place did exist for that purpose but no one explained why this was excluded from the "official historical accounts". Many books have been written about the Brattons and their plantation, but we are aware of none that include these bitter realities of slavery there. Can you imagine if the account you're now reading were the only written ones in existence as of yet.


This is the evolution of oral histories and oral traditions. They are being transformed by new media and technology. In the Storyteller Tradition each carrier of the story brings their voice and adapts it for their audience/community. 




This project will create a solution to a persistent problem for many others around the world that they can easily plug into and help create a virtual annex for other cultural and historical preservation resources, as well as a cultural portal for the global community. Bringing our new understanding culture in our post modern context. This is an innovative application of ICT to inclusively benefit all, with attention to perspectives of historically oppressed groups and marginalized groups using an approach similar to that employed by wikipedia. Consider a future where history welcomes the voices of many to better inform understanding of complex realities.


Who benefits?

The resulting product will benefit many, including Organization:NGO_Art_Studio and other Nonprofit and community organizations like it providing community enrichment and mentoring new talent.


In addition to Private Business:Sponsorship we will apply research funding to the creation and maintenance of this repository and eLearning "portal" to cover technical support cost, hosting, etc.



Yvette Dubel says:

oh i got an idea w-r-t the historical preservation repository idea for what-is-peace?

i want a wikipedia inspired searchable repository that could include media content, especially oral history narrative collections...documentaries, art, and historical day to day items as artifacts

that experts and students from around the globe can study online

and contribute to a "book"of knowledge on those items using a system of peer review like wikipedia to encourage quality content

and focusing on historical preservation of those people currently excluded or marginally included in institutional collections (museums, universities, etc)






What is the next step in creating information and communication technology products that result in such a resource that is freely available?





Reggae, blues and jazz music are the perfect accompaniment to SoulFood experience and we look forward to exploring Fusion potential in the tradition of artist such as Bill Laswellin Bill Laswell: AXIOM SOUND SYSTEM.

Can you help me reach Mr. Laswell at Innerhythmic?**



"Bill Laswell has been an innovator for three decades, fusing disparate genres into a new sound. Touching on everything from world beat, funk, rock, hip-hop, and jazz, his experimental approach has no limits."




Photos taken by Irena at the blues festival in Skopje Macedonia offer images that helped propel us towards our Project Source:Collaboration.


Jimmy D. Lane Official Website


Sponsor Benefits

This is only an introduction to Sponsorship Benefits!


When content from the event, including specific Art:Works, multimedia content, press releases, blogs, and discussions are uploaded and archived it can be co-branded with your company. You can be one of the Artist to collaborate to create an Art:Work.


Imagine your business or organization being credited as Creative_ContentSponsor depending on the type of Business:Sponsorship or Source:Collaboration opportunity that interest you.


Imagine actually sponsoring specific Art:Works by selecting a custom Business:Sponsorshippackage. For example, allowing you to provide a grant award for artist developing Art:Work to premier at the Event crediting your Business as the benefactor. Instead of displaying a plastic banner on the stage your logo is incorporated into a Multimedia Art:Work which employs the Internet as part of an Installation and Performance Art:Work for the Event.






between Yvette and Irena.


[7/15/2006 4:13:32 PM] Yvette Dubel says: hi

[7/15/2006 4:13:36 PM] irena gapkovska says: Hi

[7/15/2006 4:14:19 PM] Yvette Dubel says: you mentioned you had something to tell me or discuss?

[7/15/2006 4:14:25 PM] irena gapkovska says: did you receive my info about the partnership with CIR?

[7/15/2006 4:15:04 PM] irena gapkovska says: International Affairs Forum website (www.ia-forum.org).

[7/15/2006 4:15:37 PM] irena gapkovska says: we had a conference call about organizing a Peace One Day event

[7/15/2006 4:16:35 PM] irena gapkovska says: my idea is to make a event which will invove different art performers in one place

[7/15/2006 4:16:55 PM] irena gapkovska says: musicians, artis, performers etc

[7/15/2006 4:17:03 PM] irena gapkovska says: what do you think?

[7/15/2006 4:30:55 PM] Yvette Dubel says: sorry my computer got stuck and had to reboot again (i'm reading what you wrote now)

[7/15/2006 4:31:19 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 4:31:23 PM] Yvette Dubel says: thanks

[7/15/2006 4:31:42 PM] irena gapkovska says: I am so excited about all this

[7/15/2006 4:32:30 PM] irena gapkovska says: we used to have a disscusions about the power of creativity to make the difference

[7/15/2006 4:32:55 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes!

[7/15/2006 4:32:59 PM] Yvette Dubel says: it is very exciting!

[7/15/2006 4:33:02 PM] Yvette Dubel says: Congratulations!

[7/15/2006 4:33:25 PM] irena gapkovska says: Thanks Yvette I belive that you want to be a part of this

[7/15/2006 4:34:23 PM] Yvette Dubel says: Yes, in what way can i help you?

[7/15/2006 4:34:28 PM] irena gapkovska says: you can also post your own commintment to Peace One Day on the site: www.peaceoneday.org

[7/15/2006 4:34:41 PM] irena gapkovska says: in the context of NGO Art Studio

[7/15/2006 4:34:47 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:34:53 PM] irena gapkovska says: thanks

[7/15/2006 4:35:01 PM] Yvette Dubel says: what would you like me to do?

[7/15/2006 4:35:18 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i don't want to push myself into what you're doing

[7/15/2006 4:35:27 PM] irena gapkovska says: To be a part of this projects via online

[7/15/2006 4:35:32 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and i'm still very interested in all the things we talked about before

[7/15/2006 4:35:47 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:35:53 PM] irena gapkovska says: I see all this in one context

[7/15/2006 4:36:10 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes, i think i understand what you mean

[7/15/2006 4:36:16 PM] irena gapkovska says: for me the idea of cultural fusion is about to send a peace message

[7/15/2006 4:36:24 PM] Yvette Dubel says: as it does fit with what we talked about

[7/15/2006 4:36:31 PM] irena gapkovska says: and bring more media in one

[7/15/2006 4:36:37 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:36:55 PM] Yvette Dubel says: can you tell me where you are in your planning for the event so far?

[7/15/2006 4:37:07 PM] irena gapkovska says: you are suggesting the implementation of the music and story teller

[7/15/2006 4:37:19 PM] irena gapkovska says: in the project

[7/15/2006 4:37:33 PM] irena gapkovska says: So I am trying to make this in one EVENT

[7/15/2006 4:37:38 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ok yes

[7/15/2006 4:37:51 PM] irena gapkovska says: already I regruit few bands

[7/15/2006 4:38:05 PM] irena gapkovska says: and we gonna paint a mural

[7/15/2006 4:38:23 PM] Yvette Dubel says: cool!

[7/15/2006 4:38:43 PM] irena gapkovska says: and all this I ll try to put in one short documentary

[7/15/2006 4:38:54 PM] irena gapkovska says: what do yu think

[7/15/2006 4:38:56 PM] Yvette Dubel says: wonderful!

[7/15/2006 4:39:12 PM] Yvette Dubel says: what were you thinking in the way of including storyteller(s)?

[7/15/2006 4:39:51 PM] irena gapkovska says: I am hoping that I can invite a special guests for oepning of the event

[7/15/2006 4:40:20 PM] irena gapkovska says: so I belive that story telling can also be very good part of this

[7/15/2006 4:40:36 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ok...

[7/15/2006 4:40:44 PM] Yvette Dubel says: (i'm thinking)

[7/15/2006 4:42:00 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'm thinking of how to demonstrate teh unitiy of cultures

[7/15/2006 4:42:03 PM] irena gapkovska says: on the subject Any attempt to articulate the nature of peace and peacemaking, therefore, must address those conditions that are favorable to their emergence. freedom, human rights, and justice are among such prerequisites

[7/15/2006 4:42:10 PM] Yvette Dubel says: under the theme of peace

[7/15/2006 4:42:31 PM] irena gapkovska says: Peace is] a state of well-being that is characterized by trust, compassion, and justice.

[7/15/2006 4:42:34 PM] Yvette Dubel says: for example the commitment to freedom

[7/15/2006 4:42:49 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:43:02 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'm understanding peace to be the result

[7/15/2006 4:43:12 PM] Yvette Dubel says: of absense of conflict

[7/15/2006 4:43:13 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:43:29 PM] irena gapkovska says: and input of the creativity

[7/15/2006 4:43:38 PM] irena gapkovska says: as oposite of destruction

[7/15/2006 4:44:12 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and how each culture uses stories to convey the way to live without conflict

[7/15/2006 4:44:14 PM] Yvette Dubel says: avoiding war

[7/15/2006 4:44:25 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:44:42 PM] irena gapkovska says: instead of the spreading the wrong propaganda

[7/15/2006 4:44:57 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i think of stories (allegories) taht use animals to outwit those seeking to deny justice

[7/15/2006 4:45:05 PM] Yvette Dubel says: to avoid conflict

[7/15/2006 4:45:23 PM] Yvette Dubel says: in a sense this is what is developed when we're encouraged to tap into creativitiy

[7/15/2006 4:45:32 PM] Yvette Dubel says: to find solutions within ourselves and in the world

[7/15/2006 4:45:44 PM] Yvette Dubel says: exploring instead of telling is the key to avoiding propaganda in art

[7/15/2006 4:45:55 PM] Yvette Dubel says: exploring what peace is to reveal it's truth

[7/15/2006 4:46:09 PM] Yvette Dubel says: rather than offering an image and saying this is peace

[7/15/2006 4:46:22 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i recently had someone show me the art the Nazis used

[7/15/2006 4:46:31 PM] Yvette Dubel says: to show what "good" was

[7/15/2006 4:46:42 PM] Yvette Dubel says: but in actuality they were defending evil

[7/15/2006 4:46:51 PM] irena gapkovska says: I know that clishe

[7/15/2006 4:47:04 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes it is what i see with our media

[7/15/2006 4:47:13 PM] Yvette Dubel says: when protesters gather to protest the war

[7/15/2006 4:47:17 PM] Yvette Dubel says: the media ignores it

[7/15/2006 4:47:31 PM] Yvette Dubel says: even when there are thousands of people gathering

[7/15/2006 4:47:49 PM] irena gapkovska says: I know

[7/15/2006 4:48:02 PM] Yvette Dubel says: but they say they are the news and show truth

[7/15/2006 4:48:27 PM] irena gapkovska says: Sad

[7/15/2006 4:48:35 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i think that's an important part of peace to explore

[7/15/2006 4:48:51 PM] Yvette Dubel says: how we all have to DISCOVER peace before we have it globally

[7/15/2006 4:48:57 PM] irena gapkovska says: to explore in the progresive way

[7/15/2006 4:49:01 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:49:02 PM] Yvette Dubel says: using art

[7/15/2006 4:49:06 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and creative expression

[7/15/2006 4:49:27 PM] irena gapkovska says: toward promoting a world in which nonviolent interaction and social equality are the norm

[7/15/2006 4:49:36 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes exactly

[7/15/2006 4:50:12 PM] irena gapkovska says: so I hope that I can give a different message

[7/15/2006 4:50:18 PM] irena gapkovska says: for peace

[7/15/2006 4:50:33 PM] Yvette Dubel says: Irena, can you tell a specific thing you'd like me to do? Because i very much want to work with you

[7/15/2006 4:51:04 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i admire your commitment.

[7/15/2006 4:51:05 PM] irena gapkovska says: Yvette I hope that for Now I can relly on your ideas

[7/15/2006 4:51:21 PM] Yvette Dubel says: :)

[7/15/2006 4:51:27 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ok

[7/15/2006 4:51:37 PM] irena gapkovska says: and suggestions as well I belive that you can be a part of this no matter of distance

[7/15/2006 4:51:52 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes i'd believe so too.

[7/15/2006 4:51:55 PM] irena gapkovska says: my best hope is to bring yu here

[7/15/2006 4:52:02 PM] irena gapkovska says: to work together

[7/15/2006 4:52:13 PM] irena gapkovska says: :)

[7/15/2006 4:52:32 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'm still planning ont hat as i do still intend to put together a Master Class of Art Embassadors for Peace

[7/15/2006 4:52:55 PM] irena gapkovska says: great

[7/15/2006 4:53:24 PM] Yvette Dubel says: tell me more about what you see for the event...where will it take place?

[7/15/2006 4:53:48 PM] irena gapkovska says: My goal is to make the Event in center of Skopje

[7/15/2006 4:54:05 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ah wonderful!

[7/15/2006 4:54:10 PM] irena gapkovska says: I have to organize all things about the scene

[7/15/2006 4:54:42 PM] irena gapkovska says: I hope that I can make a fusion of the visual arts and music

[7/15/2006 4:54:58 PM] irena gapkovska says: for all this I need more people

[7/15/2006 4:55:18 PM] Yvette Dubel says: how will you cover costs?

[7/15/2006 4:55:25 PM] Yvette Dubel says: do you have to rent space for the event?

[7/15/2006 4:55:28 PM] irena gapkovska says: good question

[7/15/2006 4:55:34 PM] irena gapkovska says: I am working on that

[7/15/2006 4:55:41 PM] Yvette Dubel says: are you interested in getting some sponsors?

[7/15/2006 4:55:47 PM] irena gapkovska says: I will adress some sponsors

[7/15/2006 4:55:48 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 4:55:57 PM] Yvette Dubel says: well, i had someone offer to help me get sponsors

[7/15/2006 4:56:10 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and i had the problem of no live offline event

[7/15/2006 4:56:10 PM] irena gapkovska says: tell me more

[7/15/2006 4:56:26 PM] Yvette Dubel says: so i've just been sending him periodic updates

[7/15/2006 4:56:37 PM] irena gapkovska says: aha

[7/15/2006 4:56:47 PM] Yvette Dubel says: but i had pitched him my idea and he liked it (Cultural Fusion

[7/15/2006 4:56:51 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and i told him about you

[7/15/2006 4:56:53 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and your Studio

[7/15/2006 4:56:57 PM] irena gapkovska says: I am planing to cooperate with british council so I can post this event on line

[7/15/2006 4:57:06 PM] irena gapkovska says: and?

[7/15/2006 4:57:22 PM] Yvette Dubel says: well, i've been trying to figure out what the first event would be

[7/15/2006 4:57:33 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and since you share this and invited m

[7/15/2006 4:57:34 PM] Yvette Dubel says: e

[7/15/2006 4:58:09 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'd like to go back to him with this project as he said he could help me get sponsors but then there's consideration for what they want

[7/15/2006 4:58:27 PM] irena gapkovska says: the sponsors

[7/15/2006 4:58:34 PM] Yvette Dubel says: he's a very successful bussiness man who was in Russia when we last spoke

[7/15/2006 4:58:47 PM] irena gapkovska says: and?

[7/15/2006 4:58:47 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes the sponsors want visibility and contacts

[7/15/2006 4:58:57 PM] Yvette Dubel says: so i was working out how we could do that

jsut off the conversation and trust in the person who introduced us

[7/15/2006 5:01:29 PM] irena gapkovska says: So ? What about this one? is UN event

[7/15/2006 5:01:32 PM] Yvette Dubel says: he was wililng to invest in the idea, but i didn't take the money because i had no idea when i could deliver

[7/15/2006 5:01:35 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes

[7/15/2006 5:01:40 PM] Yvette Dubel says: that's what i'm thinking!

[7/15/2006 5:01:47 PM] irena gapkovska says: is visible all around world

[7/15/2006 5:02:03 PM] Yvette Dubel says: if you're interested i'd handle the sponsors concerns of how to collect contacts, etc

[7/15/2006 5:02:09 PM] irena gapkovska says: and I ll do that only based on the good will and volunteer work

[7/15/2006 5:02:22 PM] irena gapkovska says: and all funds will be to cover the event costs

[7/15/2006 5:02:36 PM] Yvette Dubel says: why do you not want to earn money for the Studio?

[7/15/2006 5:03:00 PM] Yvette Dubel says: or pay yourself for what you do?

[7/15/2006 5:03:13 PM] irena gapkovska says: I want but I have to make a good partnership and colaboration and events which will prove my existnece best

[7/15/2006 5:03:46 PM] irena gapkovska says: so the first steps toward must be to acomplish this

[7/15/2006 5:04:15 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i don't understand what you mean

[7/15/2006 5:04:16 PM] irena gapkovska says: so in the future i will have not to run for sponsors and have my own funds

[7/15/2006 5:04:32 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:04:55 PM] Yvette Dubel says: do you see something wrong with making money?

[7/15/2006 5:05:11 PM] irena gapkovska says: As I learn so far, I have to make my project more visible more global so in the future I ll can establish a my own company

[7/15/2006 5:05:24 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ah...

[7/15/2006 5:05:32 PM] irena gapkovska says: own art school and studio like small enterprize

[7/15/2006 5:05:50 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'm not sure you understand what i mean as this is also what i want to help you achieve

[7/15/2006 5:05:52 PM] irena gapkovska says: with few different sectors, as copmuter deising

[7/15/2006 5:05:59 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 5:06:15 PM] Yvette Dubel says: maybe we need to explore what we each mean by sponsors

[7/15/2006 5:06:23 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 5:06:28 PM] Yvette Dubel says: because i don't see a conflict

[7/15/2006 5:06:33 PM] irena gapkovska says: no

[7/15/2006 5:06:38 PM] Yvette Dubel says: do you?

[7/15/2006 5:06:46 PM] irena gapkovska says: not at all

[7/15/2006 5:07:02 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ok ...the thing about sponsorship for events is taht

[7/15/2006 5:07:25 PM] Yvette Dubel says: it becomes a stream of revenue that can grow as others start see your events as valuable

[7/15/2006 5:07:36 PM] Yvette Dubel says: you can limit how many sposnosr you have

[7/15/2006 5:07:51 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i had sent Robert a list of sponsorship packages i was working out

[7/15/2006 5:08:01 PM] irena gapkovska says: okay

[7/15/2006 5:08:12 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and the most visible sponsorships were limited to 10

[7/15/2006 5:08:18 PM] irena gapkovska says: wow

[7/15/2006 5:08:30 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i had about 4 levels

[7/15/2006 5:08:37 PM] Yvette Dubel says: for example

[7/15/2006 5:09:07 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:09:12 PM] Yvette Dubel says: let's say you had napkins for people getting food

[7/15/2006 5:09:31 PM] Yvette Dubel says: you have a sponor who gets to put their logo on the napkins for a fee they pay to you

[7/15/2006 5:09:51 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:10:11 PM] Yvette Dubel says: then there are other things

[7/15/2006 5:10:17 PM] Yvette Dubel says: cups, banners

[7/15/2006 5:10:29 PM] Yvette Dubel says: then you have the online side

[7/15/2006 5:10:40 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:10:41 PM] Yvette Dubel says: only top sponsors get to contact attendees

[7/15/2006 5:10:55 PM] irena gapkovska says: I see

[7/15/2006 5:11:03 PM] Yvette Dubel says: youi can give free gifts

[7/15/2006 5:11:07 PM] Yvette Dubel says: to the first 1000 people

[7/15/2006 5:11:11 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:11:13 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and give sponosorships that opportunity to drive their brand

[7/15/2006 5:11:31 PM] Yvette Dubel says: you can include them in a site for this event

[7/15/2006 5:11:40 PM] irena gapkovska says: sounds logical

[7/15/2006 5:11:49 PM] Yvette Dubel says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:11:58 PM] Yvette Dubel says: so you can cover the costs plus some

[7/15/2006 5:12:14 PM] Yvette Dubel says: the top package i had considered was about $13,500

[7/15/2006 5:12:36 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:12:42 PM] Yvette Dubel says: also

[7/15/2006 5:12:58 PM] Yvette Dubel says: my idea was that we use the event to build the relationships with businesses

[7/15/2006 5:13:11 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and later when we do the Master Class we give sponsors the chance to support artist development and again enhance their brand identity and support its CRM startegy

[7/15/2006 5:13:25 PM] Yvette Dubel says: so your Studio can offer them a grant named after that business

[7/15/2006 5:13:56 PM] Yvette Dubel says: adn all this gives you opporuntieis to market and increase profile for you and the Studio and your students

[7/15/2006 5:14:01 PM] irena gapkovska says: Yvette this sounds briliant can you make a project proposal based on this and budget about event and post this about sponsors on my mail

[7/15/2006 5:14:11 PM] Yvette Dubel says: really?

[7/15/2006 5:14:15 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 5:14:23 PM] Yvette Dubel says: what a surprise!

[7/15/2006 5:14:28 PM] Yvette Dubel says: Absolutely!

[7/15/2006 5:14:32 PM] irena gapkovska says: so I can put this in one piece and offer

[7/15/2006 5:14:38 PM] irena gapkovska says: Thanks

[7/15/2006 5:14:47 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes i can do that for you...i'm glad you like the idea

[7/15/2006 5:14:53 PM] Yvette Dubel says: (clap)

[7/15/2006 5:15:06 PM] irena gapkovska says: the idea is just briliant

[7/15/2006 5:15:21 PM] Yvette Dubel says: thank you, Irena, you've made my day!

[7/15/2006 5:15:38 PM] irena gapkovska says: thank you you opening my eyes

[7/15/2006 5:15:44 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes

[7/15/2006 5:16:57 PM] Yvette Dubel says: Irena,

[7/15/2006 5:17:08 PM] irena gapkovska says: go ahead

[7/15/2006 5:17:24 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i believe that this can be important

[7/15/2006 5:17:41 PM] irena gapkovska says: ok

[7/15/2006 5:17:44 PM] Yvette Dubel says: it can open eyes of commercial interest about the value of art/artist

[7/15/2006 5:17:58 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and show how we can work together for something better

[7/15/2006 5:18:09 PM] Yvette Dubel says: a world of peace.

[7/15/2006 5:18:24 PM] irena gapkovska says: that will be a great we can reach our ideals and our needs

[7/15/2006 5:18:29 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes!

[7/15/2006 5:18:41 PM] irena gapkovska says: this is also my goal

[7/15/2006 5:18:52 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and we can show people the power of a few

[7/15/2006 5:19:11 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and how a few can touch many

[7/15/2006 5:19:19 PM] Yvette Dubel says: this is very good!

[7/15/2006 5:19:24 PM] irena gapkovska says: yes the power of inviduals

[7/15/2006 5:19:31 PM] Yvette Dubel says: exactly

[7/15/2006 5:19:42 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and i want to see you rewarded for your hard work

[7/15/2006 5:19:46 PM] Yvette Dubel says: and your commitment

[7/15/2006 5:19:47 PM] irena gapkovska says: this is also part of the motto for Peace

[7/15/2006 5:20:09 PM] Yvette Dubel says: yes and so many need to be reminded that the individual can make a difference

[7/15/2006 5:20:22 PM] Yvette Dubel says: we do make the difference

[7/15/2006 5:20:25 PM] irena gapkovska says: thanks Yvette hope together with you and other comintment people I can do all this

[7/15/2006 5:20:37 PM] Yvette Dubel says: you will do that and more

[7/15/2006 5:20:42 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i

[7/15/2006 5:20:58 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'll work on putting a proposal together for you

[7/15/2006 5:21:08 PM] irena gapkovska says: hopefully and work with you on more projects

[7/15/2006 5:21:17 PM] irena gapkovska says: great

[7/15/2006 5:21:21 PM] Yvette Dubel says: i'd love to!


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